nonbinary and uses they/he/she pronouns, would discuss their own podcast, “Getting Curious.”But became tense when Shepard said it was “insane” that President Joe Biden is the country’s “best option.”Then, the duo clashed over whether The New York Times should be considered a left-leaning newspaper.Van Ness argued it’s not because of recent articles about gender-affirming care that some readers interpreted as “anti-trans.” Shepard, however, used conservative talking points, claiming The Times was merely “challenging” and asking “questions” about issues, such as teens taking puberty blockers and hormones.The Post has contacted reps for Van Ness and Shepard for comment. “Some people are very uncomfortable about teenagers transitioning,” Shepard said.